Posts by Klaus Vollmer

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861,000 Left WT since 2000

by Bluegrass Tom in

the following is a summary of peak publishers vs. amount of people baptized since the 6 million mark was hit.. peak publishers.

here is what the average publisher numbers look like.. average publishers.

something happened to 526,989 avg.

Klaus Vollmer

wwhen you take a mortal rate of 1 % per year it will be in 4 years about a quarter million who died so it is netto about 600.000 that left the "truth".

And you must add to the publishers the 15-minute regulation of old publishers, I guess it is mayebe another 10 % of the whole sum.

So we can compare with the figures in 2000 where there was no 145 min regulation and those old pubs did not cout. that leads to the recognition that WT has lost about 1 million of publishers in real.

They shaped the figures by the 15 minute activity and make the public known that they still are increasing.

But the blessing from above does fail - surely because of the UN-NGO thing, the worldwide activity to become accepted and tax subventioned church.

What WTS was in the early 70ies it is no more. They show engagement to survive in a world of discouragement.

There are no figures to believe in 1914 and its generation is off. The real truth - Zecharaja chapter 7 and the devastation of Jerusalem 70 years before - in 587 b c - is not tought

as then all the stuff of doctrine must be change. And the cream in the coffee is, that you may take your blood, saved by the cell-saver, take it out of the circuit and let it may be radiated beecause of cancer - then anfter hours you can take it again into your venes and it is no blood transfusion in the sight of WTS.

But take your blodd before an operation store it and use it in case of danger - that is sin.

Wash my fur but dont make me wet means the same.

they should repent in sack and ashes. But they dont - like the leaders of Judah, Israel and Jerusalem - before they were destroyed.

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The Moral Bankruptcy of the Governing Body!!!!!!!!!

by frankiespeakin in

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do you feel the gb is morally bankrupt?

to lie to those that put great trust in them is a sign of moral bankruptcy.

Klaus Vollmer

As long as they are going to sacrifice truth on the altars of the idols "descrete slave" and "unity" - they make all marching into one direction. Even if t is the way of the lemmings, wrong - while they burn those who act in regard to their own conscience while they recognize things as wrong, this club of Whisky-sneakers is acting in harmony with the great opposer: prosecuting and persecuting christians who are engaged to find the real answers. It is very arrogant to demand from christians to do what they want.

We are not slaves of any organisation. we are christians who have dedicated their lifes to god. And the GB could give recommendments, but they should always been measured by their own meter.

In old Babylon their stood on the wall mene tekel.

The have their mene tekel too, and will pay a high price.

Like the leaders of Israel (10 tribes) of Judah at times of Daniel and of Judah at the times of the apostles - they are corrupt and start apostacy at themselves. This is in accordance to the scripture that says that the end will not come before the apostacy starts.

bring me a bucket, I need to vomit about that situation

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Declining Meeting Attendance-CO visit

by TheListener in

so we have our circuit overseer this week.

we're getting the crap kicked out of us (figuratively) for our meeting attendance.

we have attendance in the 70% range for some of our meetings.

Klaus Vollmer

70 pounds is also a sack full says the miller.....

less visitors in the KH - more visitors on JWD

hey, that is evolution of revolution. or should I say, that Brooklyn lost its leadership?

I am sure they miss their quickies with the UN as uNGOdly harlot

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UN Scandal - does anyone know the reason they joined to start with?

by AK - Jeff in

like most on this board, i know the story, have seen the un press release, ect.

but can someone comment on two questions for me?.

who caught them with their hands in the cookie jar?

Klaus Vollmer

hello fellows,

when I read the AWAKE, February 22nd 05 I come to the thinking that WT is again within the UN as NGO as they write a lot about them again showing uncle Annan on a photograph.

Doea anybody knwo anything?

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Argument from an elder on why to not leave the JWs...

by undercover in

i got an interesting reply from an elder friend when i admitted that i had issues with the wts.

i had listed the failed predictions, the changing doctrines and the mistakes made by the wts.. he came back with the examples of the israelites in the wilderness and under the various kings.

the nation of israel was still god's people despite their hardheadedness and sins.

Klaus Vollmer

I found some interesting answers here to that topic.

Regarding my thinking to this theme I recognize:

IN the past gods nations priests and king who were not loyal to Jehovah and who betrayed him got their penalty. 'And so file & Ranks who were loyal to their leaders. That took playe when Assyria took the 10 tribe kingdom of Israel, that took place when nabucco and Babylon took Judah and that took place, when Rome to Jerusalem. Always the leaders kille those who said the truth. The Bord does it too today. They set them on a heap of fire when they claim some people who cant accept certain behaviors as apostates.

In fact I compare those disfellowshipped in case ob faith with those "rebels" of the catholic church who were sacrivfice of inquisition and died in the fire.

The WTS is guilty in making itsself to be a god. I have now problem that the intense of the teaching is to honour the name of god and to proclaim his kingdom, an advantage less others do it the same.

But I know that first comes the leaving of the faith - Apostacy - then the end. And that an end will come is surely correct as man shows that he is not able to keep the planet alive.

Here are some interesting things to be found : http://www.bibledecoded.com/

K.V.

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Awake Moving To Monthly Publishing

by Valis in

i just recieved this note from one of our faithful and discreet slaves... keep an eye out for the march 2005 km.

word is that the awake will only be published once a month starting in january 2006.. sincerely,.

district overbeer.

Klaus Vollmer

once a month means they got the awareness that mosts of the mags are stored in the flats of the dubs.

worse tongues now say that less awake means more asleep .

I think they are going down the Jordan - they distribute mags that nobody wants to read by dubs that are less motivated at times nobody is engaged for discussion and no donation is given for the prints.

Where is the blessing? The figure of publishers was raised to a higher number by integrating the 15 minutes regulation 2 years ago, where the old people wer re-established as publishers.

But the development still goes down as the fish starts stinking by the head.

organized religion is lining out christianity. They sacrifice righteousness and truth on the altar of unity and they have great ideals for it: the pharisees of the time of the apostles. For unity they killed JC and so on.

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1 Thess. 5:21: The Forgotten Verse

by Room 215 in

it seems that the wt is distancing itself from what was once one of their favorite texts, ``make sure of all things;" they even published a handbook with that as its title.

it now appears, however to have fallen into neglect/disuse as its message would appear to be an invitation to the internet and other sources of independent information.

i haven't done a word search on recent publications, but i would bet that this text is invoked a lot less frequently than in the past.

Klaus Vollmer

I think they stopped that book because therein they honored the Greber Bible regarding John 1:1. Johannes Greber who received this translation from the spirit world confirmes the same text understanding like the NWT.

Already in the 50ies the WT explained that Greber is a medium. But his work was good enough to underline the WTS -philosophy.

Perhaps this book also is rejected in case of the Raymond Franz happening where some others from the Bethel in the early 80ies were fired - like Ed Dunlap etc.

So this book expresses the awareness of WTS to separate from maninds work in case of their own personal that was sent into desert. The reasoning book is in use now since many years, in spite the make sure book was never too much worse. Like the aid-book which had the same process in disappearing in the bookshelfs.

chamaleon WTS is always active in shaping its presence, past and future

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Comments You Will Not Year at the 1-9-05 WT Study (Abbreviated)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 1-09-05 wt study (december 1, 2004)

review comments

will be in black and parentheses ().

Klaus Vollmer

hello Blondie,

your comments I never miss, just not always having the time and the motivation to write too a comment.

But it is given and mustbe said that the Brooklyn Eagles do have a commentary to each and every occasion. And you can hit them by their own utterances:

" That means all the meeting attendance and hours riding around in cars in field service are worth nothing if the motivation is not right?"

I recognize the motivation of most of the brethren is given by the facts that they want to have an image, the honor and some privleges among the congregation.

They dont care about the real problems and dont want to be disturbed in their doings. WTS does know this but they are in a scissor: the more they pressure the elders, the les they do.

And they have no others to serve and no stones to speak.

Its the desire for comfort and independece what makes them keep distance to the brothers. They invite only those they like, not those who deserve it. They talk about love but reject it and elders often practice experiences from Dr. Goebbels who explained that you only need throwing some dirt to somebody, a little always will be left on him.

So treat their interests and hold donw those whom they dont want to be in better positions.

I think the fish starts stinking on the head. File and ranks have seldom any idea what goes on, they are the sacrifice ot what is happening.

And Internet and porn seems to be the greates traps for the elders. internet because of apostates with the leading apostates in Crookly and of cause sex sex sex, that they even unse the CO to wash the brains of the servants.

nobody sees when I drink, but everybody sees when I am drunken.

Waht a pity for them that internet makes public how they dare to fake the congregations - eg by their UN and ngo policy.

Woe to the ivory towers and woe to those who dwell there in high positions. They are captives of their own desires of double strategies.

What a great disappointment for all those who followed their councils and who now recognize that Ruthis racket and snare is still alive

Wash my fur but dont make me wet said the bear and lost it to the trapper